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hello, I have a few questions:
I have a multisite network: 1 main site and 3 subsites. For some reason, after updating my plugins recently, the subsites stopped working. i.e the WP admin login page cannot be accessed and I can’t login to the admin panel for these subsites. But the websites themselves are working fine.
I did a backup restore and got them back up and I got a notification from WooCommerce stating to run their updater tool. When I did that, again, the WP admin panel login for the subsites all stopped working.
1. I don’t know what is the issue but I know it’s not due to malware or hackers since I’ve got Wordfence installed and activated plus the issue happened after I tried to do updates for the plugins. Yet, even though the plugins are updated, only the subsites are affected, not the main site. Do you think it’s because I’ve got too many plugins and they are messing up the system? Will it help to use a cleanup tool like Beyond Multisite?
2. Since I’ve been working mostly on my main site and haven’t done much with the subsites, my second option in the worst case scenario would be to perform a clean deletion of the subsites (not the whole multisite and not the main site) and start afresh. If that’s the case, will Beyond Multisite be the perfect plugin for the job? It will be able to perform a clean deletion of the subsites for those leftovers data and stuff after Wordpress performs the deletion of the subsite right?
Will deleting and starting the subsites afresh prevent the initial problem from recurring? How best can I prevent such problems in future? Will Beyond Multisite help?
3. I have WP Optimize installed as well. Does it overlap with Beyond Multisite? If I have beyond multisite, does it mean I do not need WP Optimize?
Thank you
Hello. Based on what you said, unfortunately there is no reason to believe that my plugin would help you. The issue seems to me that is caused by one of the plugins you updated. I don’t know if they are network activated or only on some sites, but you can try deactivating them one by one until the issue is resolved. This will tell you which one caused the problem. It may also be a combination of two plugins. About your 3-rd question, some features overlap, some are unique. If you want I can take a quick look at your multisite and try to find the problem. You can send me super admin access to my email nikolay@nikolaydev.com (ftp access and phpMyAdmin access would also be useful).Regards.
hello! thank you very much for your prompt response and kind offer to help!! I really appreciate it. It turns out that there was a conflict with this plugin I installed from AffiliateWP. I have since contacted them for help to resolve the issue.
But I’m still interested in getting beyond multisite but would like to know what are the differences between it and other plugins like WP Optimize and Optimize Database after Deleting Revisions so that I can decide if it’s suitable for my needs.
Sure, no problem. I hope they fix the issue. About my plugin, there are too many differences with the plugins you mentioned, I would never be able to describe them all, not to mention I have not used those plugins. I will say some things though. My plugin has 10 different modules, only one of them is related to cleanup. So it is similar to getting 10 different plugins, and you can turn them on and off. My cleanup module can bulk delete comments, revisions, sites, and leftover database tables that belong to deleted sites. There are different useful settings, like only targeting comments with links in them (usually spam), or excluding some sites by ID. The most complicated cleanup feature that no other plugin have that I know of, is the option to bulk delete sites based on many parameters, like date registered, last updated, if they are empty (no posts or pages), even notify site administrators and give them a chance to cancel the deletion if they want to use their site. I can talk all day about my plugin, but there are too many things and I don’t know what you need exactly. You can see a very good and as short as possible description of each of the modules on my plugin page https://codecanyon.net/item/beyond-multisite-utilities-for-wordpress-network-admins/19633352 when you scroll down to the Features section. You can see a quick video preview of the plugin here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3qKJWX1NGA or with the button “video preview” in the plugin item page. Let me know if you need more information on any feature of my plugin. Regards.
Firstable, I congratulate you for your great product. I had Jetpack installed, I deactivated it for the network, and my site had Error 500, then I disabled Jetpack to return it to normal, now I could not activate Jetpack because it generates Error 500. My question is: What can I do to activate Jetpack again to the network? without having Error 500.
Hello. Thank you, I am happy to hear you like it. About your problem, from what you said, I am not sure I understand what is going on. Are you saying you disabled Jetpack with the disable feature of my plugin, and this somehow causes an error 500 when you try to activate it? I have to take a look at this. Please send me an email at nikolay@nikolaydev.com with a super admin account details and a link to your main network site, so I can see this problem. Regards.
What a fucking plugin!! .... I’m sorry, I just wanted to express my amazement, I’m using it and it’s fantastic. With only one module of this plugin I save hours of work, I would gladly have paid 3 times what cost me.
Awesome! I am very glad to hear it and thank you for the review! Now I have 3 of them and I get the stars 
. I hope you solved your error 500. Let me know if you want me to have a look.
Hi Nikolay! Just bought your plugin. Question, I have 2 sites, one is default which I want to copy to site 2. But under Sites, there is not any Copy option for default site, only for site 2. Any idea what is wrong? Best regards, Steve
Hello. Thank you for purchasing! The plugin cannot copy the main site (which I have mentioned on the item page), but I can copy the site for you if you provide me the access I need (FTP, WordPress Super Admin, and phpMyAdmin). Please email me at nikolay@nikolaydev.com
Hi Nikolay, thanks! I found solution. Thanks for a quick answer. Great support!
Cool, no problem.
Is it possible to export a site from one multisite and import it on an other multisite? In my special case I have an untraceable error in the database and want to set up a new installation and import the sites.
Hello. Sorry, but my plugin does not have this feature.
hi. how about admin site . i can set anysite to admin, right?
Hello. Please explain in more details what are you asking about. I do not understand the question. Regards.
i mean root site that controls all other site
Do you want to change the main site of the network? There is no such feature in the plugin, sorry. Or you need something else? If you are asking about copying it, the main site cannot be copied too.
i mean that which site you are using to install plugin to all other sites . or any site in network still can add , remove plugin or post on other site
Sites do not add plugins and do not make posts, it is users that do that. The super administrator users can install plugins and have access to all sites and the whole network. This is how the multisite works. If you are asking about the plugin control module of my plugin, I can say that super administrator users can choose which plugins to hide from normal administrator users. You are mixing up a lot of terms and also not naming the feature or module you are asking about. It is very hard to decode your question. I hope I answered it this time. Regards.
hi. how about admin site . i can set anysite to admin, right?
can i add user to multi-website? or remove user…,setup new plugin for all website..
Hello. I am not sure if I understand your question. Do you want to add/remove a user to/from multiple sites at once? And with the second question do you mean to set the options for a plugin globally for all sites? If this is what you mean, there are no such features in the plugin, sorry. If you mean something else, please explain in more details. Regards.
Hi Niko. Some questions before buying: My Scenario is to be create a Master Site with several plugins. This Master Site will only be used to clone it in order to create seveal sites. Having said this: 1. How does it manage the data bases? Will it create a new one for each cloned site? 2. As I understand, it will copy all plugins, right? 3. If I get to make a custom development, will it also clone it and control it?
Hello.
Looking at your questions 1 and 2, it seems to me that you do not understand how WordPress multisite works. Question 3, I do not understand. What is a custom development?
In WordPress multisite there is only one database (unless you use some kind of plugin to split it to multiple ones). The database has many tables, some are global, some are for each individual site. When you create a new site, new database tables are created (not new databases).
Currently with Beyond Multisite you can only paste a copy of a site into an existing site (replacing it completely). So the database tables of the site to paste into are deleted and replaced with copies of the database tables of the site to copy from (and their data is changed a little so it works).
Now about the plugins. in a WordPress Multisite the plugin files exist only in one folder, and are global for all sites. So they do not need to be copied. If you mean to say the plugin data, stored in the database, then yes, it will be copied (since it is a part of the database tables, which are copied).
I hope that helps. Let me know if you have more questions, and clarify question 3.
Regards.
Hi Niko,
I have an issue with my multi site, every time I create a domain and delete it, I can’t recreate the same domain without getting the following error:
The page isn’t redirecting properly
Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
My site goes down and all your browser tells you is there are too many redirects or that your site is in a loop.
This is the reason why I bought this plugin because I thought it would solve the problem.
Basically what I have done is created a new site in my network with the same URL as a deleted site, now it causes an infinite re-direct.
If this plugin can’t solve the problem, I can’t use it for my intended problem.
Please advise a way forward.
Thanks.
Hello. It seems that you have a problem in your multisite or server and you thought that my plugin will fix it. I tried now on my multisite to create the same site that I have deleted, and it works fine. But if you want I can have a look at your problem on your multisite, maybe I can help (even though the problem is not related to my plugin, since it was present before you bought it). If you want, send me an email at nikolay@nikolaydev.com with your website address and super admin user and password so I can try and replicate the problem and see it in action. Also more clear instructions on how to replicate the problem would also be good. Thanks. Regards.
Can this plugin hide certain plugins for specific subsites? I have several sub sites amd i don’t want the admins of those sites to see plugins that I’m using for my maim site.
Hello. Yes. You can first disable the plugins for the whole network, and then enable them only on the sites you want to see them. Just to be clear, It hides them from the plugins page in the admin area. You can watch the first 30 seconds of this video to see it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3qKJWX1NGA Let me know if you need more information.
By the way, If you are fine with only you seeing them, it will be easier to just disable (hide) them for the whole network. You will still see them, because you are a super administrator.
Can you do something like this with themes as well? Only have a few certain themes to be shown?
You can do this with themes by default. No plugin needed. First network disable a theme from /wp-admin/network/themes.php and then go to /wp-admin/network/sites.php click Edit on one site and then Themes. There you can enable only for this site.
okay, I’m loving this plugin. I have a plugin that I network activate and want to run on all current and new sites that I have created or will create. The only problem is that I only want this plugin to be viewable by super administrators. How can this be achieved? I was able to hide some plugins but they had to be deactivated. Is there a way to have a plugin activated on a certain subsite and not have the site admin not see it?
Hello again, Mbx. I am happy to hear that you love the plugin! If you want to share this with the world, you can also leave a review: https://codecanyon.net/item/beyond-multisite-utilities-for-wordpress-network-admins/reviews/19633352
About your current questions. The first one seems to be, if you can hide a network activated plugin. If you mean hide it from the list of plugins on the plugins admin screen, where site admins see the plugins, then I can say that WordPress hides network activated plugins from there automatically. Maybe you didn’t notice it. Please try for your self and let me know if it works for you like you want.
Is your second question the same one with other words, I am not sure. Please clarify and I will answer further if it is needed
I will leave a rating but to be fair i usually wait 3 to 6 months or once I’ve used the plugin fully, which ever comes first. As far as my problem from earlier, you were right, i just had to network activate the plugin and it was good to go. 2nd issue was the same as the first.
Now if there was a way to clone a plugins setting from one site to another would be awesome. Like when you install any plugin on a given site and want to just clone the plugin settings to another new site or an existing without having to clone the entire site.
About the rating, yeah, sure, I understand. I actually do a similar thing too. No worries. Now about cloning only a plugin settings from one site to another. It is a great idea, and I have thought about it a little bit in the past, but it is a bit tricky. I don’t even think there is a good way of knowing where exactly a given plugin stores its settings. And it needs to work with all or most plugins too. I will think more about it, but for now unfortunately, I cannot promise anything.
Thank you for even considering it. This would be a profound feature as no one can do this. As far as where the data is stored, I thought it would be some settings in the the meta data in the db that the plugin stores it’s settings/configuration but that might be true for all plugins I guess? I’m not sure either. Are there standards in where plugin data are to be stored in a specific place?
I do have some other easier ideas for this plugin that I would love to see like the ability to view a site as a site admin like a user switching to the site admin so you can see what they would see on their site and how your plugin hides/shows plugins based on your BMS plugin and more. I’m aware of other plugins that allows user switching but to have something tied into your plugin and be able to seamlessly jump between a site admin or super admin between sites would be fantastic!
There is no really a standard for where a plugin stores it settings. There is a database table for options and every plugin can add records there, and they just choose some kind of name for the records they add. And it could be named anything they want. And there is no data for which record from which plugin is made too. So just looking at the data I can’t tell which is for which plugin and even which is for a theme. And they don’t even have to store the settings there. They can put them in a file or in another different database table entirely if they want. There is much freedom. I have some ideas though on some sneaky ways of doing it at least to work with most plugins, I will try some things and see if they work and let you know. About user switching, there is a very popular, free plugin, that is up to date and with almost perfect rating (called User Switching). And I just tried it real quickly and it seems to show the plugins that I disabled with Beyond Multisite correctly when I switch to a site admin. So it should work for your needs. What do you want exactly that it is not present in that plugin?
I understand.
Something as simple as a small plugin that checks if the sub site has a site admin and let’s you click one button to “view this site as Site Admin”, and of course an ability to switch back. Benefit of it is that it’s all in one plugin rather than installing another.
Yes, I agree that using less plugins is a benefit. Thank you for your suggestions, I am writing them down and will consider them. If you have more ideas, I want to hear them too. I am working on the copy options feature now, it might just work actually.
You, sir, have made my DAY!!! And yes I will have suggestions as I play with this more and more. I started to notice things that I do redundantly and perhaps a solution can be made to remedy it once I figure out what that is.
Cool.
Hey, if you want, send me an email at nikolay@nikolaydev.com and when I am ready I will respond and send you a version of the plugin with the feature “copy options”. You can try it out and test it a little before I release it.
Hi, where is the demo? Thanks
Hi. Sorry, there is no demo at this time. Since the plugin performs network administration tasks, the demo user needs to have a lot of permissions. I haven’t come up with a safe way to do that yet. But you can watch the video with the “Video Preview” button, or ask me anything you are not sure about. Regards.
anyway i can test before buying? like a trial version of the plugin or something?
Sorry, no. There is a refund policy though. But you cannot ask for a refund if you just don’t like it. There has to be a better reason, it is described here: https://codecanyon.net/page/customer_refund_policy
Hi, I thought email user will sent email automatically after new post published. There is no features like that?
Hi. I am sorry that you misunderstood my description. I try to make it as clear as possible. It is for you to send an email to the users, it is not for new post notifications. Explain to me in more details what is the exact feature that you need and how do you need it to work. Maybe I can add it to the plugin or try to recommend you a plugin for it. Regards.
Cloning a site will clone everything including posts, pages, users etc. It isn’t mentioned if it’ll clone the woocommerce products, product categories, tags etc. as well. Please confirm. Thanks.
Hi.
Sure, those too
Hello,
I have a quick question…If I “deactivate” a certain plugin, preventing it within subsite(1) will it also stop that plugin from using any resources and or space within subsite(1) ?
Thank you. I am using alot of plugins in my multisite setup but my subsites only use half of the total installed plugins. I am currently using “Plugin Organizer” (which works great) but I would like to minimize the amount of data/space the other half of the plugins (the unused ones) are causing/ using.
Any thoughts? or is this the plugin i’ve been looking for?
Kindest, Shane
Hello.
Activating/deactivating plugins on a per site basis is a feature that is available in WordPress core. You do not need a plugin for that. The plugin just has to not be network activated in order to be able to do this.
Deactivated plugins will not use resources, as far as I know. Well, their database tables still remain in the database (if the plugin has been activated once and if it even creates such tables). But they remain even after plugin deletion (some plugins do delete them though). And of course the files are still on the server, but there is only one copy of the files, regardless of how many subsites you use.
My plugin offers the option to “disable” plugins, which is different from deactivating. The idea is to hide the plugin from the site administrators of a given subsite (or all subsites), so they cannot control it (activate/deactivate).
My plugin also has the option to bulk activate/deactivate a plugin, which just saves you time if you need to do it on many or all subsites.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions, or if I didn’t understand you correctly
Great job.. with this, can i build blog such as edublog.com ..? and receipt a payment from member ..?
Hi. Thanks. I think you mean edublogs.org. Well, no. There are no payment features in the plugin at the moment. All the features are listed on the plugin page. For what you are asking I have seen a plugin called Pro Sites, but it costs $49 a month to get access to it along with all the plugins of the company that makes it. I don’t recommend that company and their products though, I am just saying what I have seen.
Wonderful Job! Congratulations
Thanks
