Hello all together,
I just have to say some things, which really do trouble my on this platform.
This platform lives from us designers and they should just show us more respect than only comfort us whith standard emails.
This with regard to us waiting several days until our uploaded projects, for which we worked hard perhaps several days and weeks, get rejected.
We should also get a sane statement from the review teams about what exactly is wrong with our work. Only then you have a point of reference.
Instead of this you are just directed to the forum to show your secred project to the public before it is even released.
Where ist the professionalism in this review teams ?
The review team should also not decide afer their own taste, but just after technical points an just deal neutral and professional.
The client decides what he wants to buy an what he likes and not the review team.
I think that I speak for the whole community in this point. Everybody thinks this way but does not want to speak it out, because they are afraid of not having released any project ever after.
Now I have to improve my rejected item, because my taste is different than the taste of the review team. So, happy designing to all of you.
Like they say: “Once again, thanks so much for the submission. We encourage you to submit more items in the future.”
- Sold between 100 000 and 250 000 dollars
- Author was Featured
- France
- Item was Featured
- Author had a File in an Envato Bundle
- Author had a Free File of the Month
- Contributed a Tutorial to a Tuts+ Site
- Repeatedly Helped protect Envato Marketplaces against copyright violations
You can reply to the rejection email to ask for some more details, would you show us your template ?
oxygesic said
Hello all together,I just have to say some things, which really do trouble my on this platform.
This platform lives from us designers and they should just show us more respect than only comfort us whith standard emails.
This with regard to us waiting several days until our uploaded projects, for which we worked hard perhaps several days and weeks, get rejected.
We should also get a sane statement from the review teams about what exactly is wrong with our work. Only then you have a point of reference.
Instead of this you are just directed to the forum to show your secred project to the public before it is even released.
Where ist the professionalism in this review teams ?
The review team should also not decide afer their own taste, but just after technical points an just deal neutral and professional.
The client decides what he wants to buy an what he likes and not the review team.
I think that I speak for the whole community in this point. Everybody thinks this way but does not want to speak it out, because they are afraid of not having released any project ever after.
Now I have to improve my rejected item, because my taste is different than the taste of the review team. So, happy designing to all of you.
Like they say: “Once again, thanks so much for the submission. We encourage you to submit more items in the future.”
1. You must have some distance to your work, some advises of reviewing stuff are really helpful
2. I agree envato should work out new rejection procedure for example divide rejections into 2 categories like 1. “not enough quality”, “quality enough” and 2. “original” “not original” if theme passes both categories it is suitable for marketplace.
3. Reviewers should take into account that every not well explained rejection increases the costs of staff.
- Sold between 250 000 and 1 000 000 dollars
- Community Moderator
- Author was Featured
- Item was Featured
- Bought between 50 and 99 items
- Referred between 1000 and 1999 users
- Has been a member for 3-4 years
- Repeatedly Helped protect Envato Marketplaces against copyright violations
I think the review team does a great job. They can’t give in-depth feedback on every submission, especially if there’s some major rework that is needed. There are plenty of great tutorials around to help authors go in the right direction. This topic has been discussed over and over again with the same result. Yes, it’s frustrating not to get lots of feedback, but the reviewers are there to screen products for sale, not teach every author how to code and design – still, they always offer the option for you to email them and ask for more details.
By the way, it seems like you opened a new account just to post this message, just to bash the review team anonymously?
Also, if you’re only spending “several days” on a WordPress theme project, that might be your problem right there. And “waiting several days” is a pretty good turn around for the volume they get.
Try to relax and take these rejections as a chance to improve your work. If you’re that upset about it, you can always take your designs elsewhere, too.
Show us your theme.
Looks like a designer with second account here, which is not really happy that his theme was rejected another time. I don´t think that he is a new author here (no flag, no badges, nothing, 1 post -> looks like a new account to me).
I think the reviewer team do a great job. Sure there are allways some improvements possible, but who can compare with this great marketplace?
oxygesic said
I think that I speak for the whole community in this point. Everybody thinks this way but does not want to speak it out, because they are afraid of not having released any project ever after.
Now I have to improve my rejected item, because my taste is different than the taste of the review team. So, happy designing to all of you.
I have disagree with there buddy, you can’t speak for me I happen to think they do a good job.
It’s frustrating sure, thats why it’s a good idea to cover all bases before submitting or getting peer review.
I really getting annoyed with all the people bashing the reviewers. The fact of that matter is, if your submission gets rejected, it’s not because the reviewers are bad, evil people, it’s because your submission was crap.
The reviewers aren’t your mom, so they’re not going to hold your hand and coddle you when they reject your theme. They’re going to point blank tell you “It’s not good enough for ThemeForest.” Sometimes they might give you some specific reasons, but in all honesty, if you’re a real designer, you should be able to figure out what’s wrong with your theme on your own.
As for releasing your theme to the public eye on the forums, don’t worry about that. For one thing, the forums is mostly authors, at least all of the active users. The chances of anyone important to you (buyers) seeing the theme are unlikely. Besides, at that point your theme has already been rejected from ThemeForest so you shouldn’t really be worrying about sales at that point.
Sorry, I know I sound mean, it’s just a pain when everyone whines about how it’s the reviewers fault that their stuff doesn’t get accepted instead of acting like an adult and owning up to that fact that their submission just wasn’t good enough and they need to work harder.
- Attended a Community Meetup
- Author had a File in an Envato Bundle
- Author had a Free File of the Month
- Author was Featured
- Beta Tester
- Bought between 1 and 9 items
- Contributed a Blog Post
- Contributed a Tutorial to a Tuts+ Site
- Envato Staff
organix said
1. You must have some distance to your work, some advises of reviewing stuff are really helpful2. I agree envato should work out new rejection procedure for example divide rejections into 2 categories like 1. “not enough quality”, “quality enough” and 2. “original” “not original” if theme passes both categories it is suitable for marketplace.
3. Reviewers should take into account that every not well explained rejection increases the costs of staff.
1) Well said. We DO provide feedback IF the submission is close enough to be approved.
2) Guess what, we are actually have similar procedure. We always trying to improve our marketplace in order to provide different types of products ( designs ) while maintaining the current approvals.
It is very hard to judge that a design is good enough or not enough quality, authors here are really amazing. I’d seen some of them provide a totally different quality template in their second attempt. So, you can’t simply tell them “this suck, please give up”, you never know what they can do if they push really hard.
However, we also can’t simply tell the author, ya, this is really close now, just improve this and that. Now that’s is personal taste, what we can tell is just it has potential and it lack of “XXX” or “YYY”. But normally author get frustrated from here, they always assume that the next attempt which they think they FOLLOW the instruction and it should be approved. But the problem is most of the time, they just change it but not improve it.
And for original template, I can tell, I personally really like this. I always lower the standards when reviewing this type of submission, it shows the efforts and passions. I will try my best to provide some inside feedback. Maybe it will not sell well ( but normally it is a hit, it sell like crazy ), but we need them here in ThemeForest.
And, for sure, these templates still need to meet some basic requirements to get through.
I hope I explain clearly here and you have a basic understanding on how we review here. Personal taste is absolutely not going to happen and never happen in the review process.
3) And every well explained feedback always encourage the authors to re-submit & re-submit. Then they will say “Please, I already FOLLOW exactly what you ask me to do, now, please approve it”. Then what should we do? You tell me now 
kailoon said
However, we also can’t simply tell the author, ya, this is really close now, just improve this and that. Now that’s is personal taste, what we can tell is just it has potential and it lack of “XXX” or “YYY”. But normally author get frustrated from here, they always assume that the next attempt which they think they FOLLOW the instruction and it should be approved. But the problem is most of the time, they just change it but not improve it.
+1 for this comment.
