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jonathan01 says

Great news everyone – Microsoft to extend support for IE6 until 2014 – WTF !?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8196242.stm

You want my opinion – for years and years Microsoft have been losing the browser battle against stiff competition – they know that because their newer browsers have not been PUSHED into the corporate world – as updates to Windows have – they figured out that because industry stats say user base can be anything up to 20% of the browser market still using IE6 that’s 20% they can continue to cling to inflating their obviously dropping figures.

But what you gonna do…..

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jonatanfroes says

:(

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shadow66142000 says

WTF – It would also keep other browsers from moving forward as fast, as they would like, knowing that coding would still need to support IE6 .

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jremick Envato team says

haha, I had some lady email me the other day and was mad at me because I have IE6 blocked and her IT department won’t upgrade their browsers. It’s not just Microsoft’s fault, they’re just trying to keep supporting their customers (while continuing to produce crappy browsers).

If this is ever going to change, web developers need to stop bending over backwards to keep supporting ancient technology. Or charge $1000 an hour for all work done in IE6 , lol. :D

I’ve been thinking about a solution to this kind of problem. See, IE7 is just the next IE6 and IE8 will be the next IE7 . Microsoft’s browsers are crap and will continue being a thorn in web developers’ sides for a long time to come. The problem is that the large majority of people don’t upgrade because they are either too scared to, don’t know how or other applications rely on the older browser.

So, what can we do? Take the browser out of the hands of the average web user. Some sort of cloud computing environment maybe or a really simple application that has one sole purpose – connect to a virtual browser (like a service) which is automatically updated for users yet still customizable (like Firefox). The application doesn’t need to be upgraded (or at least as often) because it only has one simple purpose (basically a simple vnc).

Maybe these are dumb ideas but I’d like to see something change. ;-)

Edit: Or maybe we can require people to get a surfing license! :-D You have to be able to surf the web legally before you can own and operate a computer. :-P

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stmcan says

Awful truth!.. Many big companies are still using older version of windows and IE6 with it.. So, it looks we’ll endure ie6 a few years more.. :(

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MDNW says
If this is ever going to change, web developers need to stop bending over backwards to keep supporting ancient technology. Or charge $1000 an hour for all work done in IE6 , lol. :D

I’ve been thinking about a solution to this kind of problem. See, IE7 is just the next IE6 and IE8 will be the next IE7 . Microsoft’s browsers are crap and will continue being a thorn in web developers’ sides for a long time to come. The problem is that the large majority of people don’t upgrade because they are either too scared to, don’t know how or other applications rely on the older browser.

So, what can we do? Take the browser out of the hands of the average web user. Some sort of cloud computing environment maybe or a really simple application that has one sole purpose – connect to a virtual browser (like a service) which is automatically updated for users yet still customizable (like Firefox). The application doesn’t need to be upgraded (or at least as often) because it only has one simple purpose (basically a simple vnc).

Well said – that sort of cloud-computing application won’t happen for as far as I can see; Americans can’t even hand over basic things to the government OR the market economy without crying “socialist pig!” or “capitalist pig!”, despite several instances where either one might play an effective role. The fact is they demand the choices be left in their individual hands, regardless of how ill informed they might be. Trusting developers and programmers to actually make the right decisions – to us this seems noble, but I can’t see that lady who you referenced even having the slightest motivation to desire someone else to make choices for her. Dumb people globally would revolt at every slight change that’s been made without their individual approval.

Edit: Or maybe we can require people to get a surfing license! :-D You have to be able to surf the web legally before you can own and operate a computer. :-P

Funny, I feel the same way about parenting, lol.

Also: Let’s not forget that a large percentage of IE users are having it forced upon them in work environments (Digg.com conducted a recent poll to that effect), so it’s not like they even have a choice in the matter. If presented with accurate information and a test-drive of each browser, I’m pretty sure not everyone would pick FF, but at the very least there would be an exodus from older builds of IE.

The key here is that there’s little left to do but sit around and wait for all of the computers with IE6 installed on them to break down… sure, there’ll always be another IEX out there, but that’s just a fact of life until we can get all browsers to agree on standards and let the UI featureset of each browser be what differentiates, there’s always going to be at least one rogue in the pack. It’s just unfortunate that the rogue at the moment holds such a high market share.

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PixelBin says

Why!? Why is Microsoft so freakin’ stupid!? Let’s support Windows 95, and hell, let’s go back to Pentium 1. You know what? Forget computers, they’re useless. Calculators are the way to go.

Some people (and companies, in this case) just amaze me. We live in a world where when you buy a device, it’ll be “old” the next day. There is constant-moving technology, and if you’re going to hold back one of the FASTEST updating technologies (the almighty Internet), you clearly don’t know what’s going on in the world.

Personally, I am going to specifically charge more for work done in Internet Explorer 6.

And like Jarel said, IE7 will soon become IE6 , because Microsoft is always a step behind.

On another, but similar note: How can a non-profit company like Mozilla produce better products than a massive corporation like Microsoft that’s been in business for 25 years?

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LuizZak says

Oh, I can already hear my boss yelling to the webdesigners ‘Hey! Make that page IE6 compatible!’ for more 5 long years :(

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jremick Envato team says
On another, but similar note: How can a non-profit company like Mozilla produce better products than a massive corporation like Microsoft that’s been in business for 25 years?

They actually listen to what their users want and make sure it works before releasing it.

Microsoft is as big as it is today because way back in the day when they started out, they were doing things nobody else had a clue about. They took over a niche market and dominated by pushing everyone else out of the way with various tactics. There wasn’t the same level of competition at that point as there is today either. Along the way they’ve bought out most of their competition who might’ve had a chance. If there were as many easily usable operating systems today as there are browsers, Microsoft would be a very different company. Unfortunately Microsoft can still afford to ignore most of its customers and listen to lots that don’t know what they’re talking about.

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jonathan01 says

I just don’t buy the fact that corporations cannot upgrade – I do understand that they have the mentality of if it works then no need to upgrade – my question is this – if Microsoft can PUSH upgrades to their OS for security reasons – why not push out IE7 or IE8 to corps as a security upgrade due to the browser being so old and outdated?

I’ve worked in and with large corps that STILL use IE6 – I understand the issue – I understand the argument that Microsoft is simply looking after their customers… but that doesn’t always fly.. windows me anyone? They dropped that donkey as soon as they could – this is purely MS holding on to a market they have been losing for years and it’s simply an ass way of keeping their figures artificially inflated in the browser war that they will ultimately lose – and that is for sure.

But I guess whether MS want to keep it going or not, they will come under pressure from someone as most of the big guys now are displaying banners / messages stating you are using an outdated browser and supply links to the alternatives to download – how long will it be before everyone really gets tired of this and simply produces a blank page saying you can’t view this site until you upgrade – I’ll guarantee that if techcrunch, gizmodo and all those other tech sites do this then all the IT techs who read those pages for half of their working day will soon make sure it’s a network wide upgrade so they can get back to their “daily reading”.

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